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Name: Adam
Birthday: 3/8/1988
Gender: Male
Interests: God, Jesus, Holy spirit, and, uh, did i say God? AND JUST BEING ALIVE! Church, FWC, and deffinitely k-town. Sports, and debating. Yes, you might say im an intellectual.
Expertise: Being cool, portugese, and christian. Yes people say i give good advice, but that's to their discretion. Im not about to exalt my own knowledge, I mean, come on, do you really think im that conceited?
Occupation: Student
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AIM:  ilikejehovah
Member Since:
3/20/2005
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| I must say, kudos to xanga for revamping the site. It's kind of sad, even though I know like no one reads this, I'm pretty excited about it  .
If anything, it's cool to be able to scroll through all my blogs and comments with ease. O the nostalgia of three years of blog/commenting action!
Right now I'm working on my first "lesson plan/sermon" for systematic theology, and I'm doing it on the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
I must say, it's quite the mental work out, but man, one day this paper will be some GOOOOD preaching!
It's awesome having an assignment that forces me to search for greater, deeper insights into God's word, because well, when you look deep enough, they're there to find.
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| So I've been having this extensive debate with an agnostic, and I
thought you guys might like this argument. Not gonna lie, it's pretty
awesome .
But I do want to say it wasn't my original idea, I read it on a
website, but at first it didn't make sense. After a while it did, and
I will say I got a firm grasp on it, and was able to even add some
extentions of my own to it.
Read if you would, I think it'll help you with any atheist or agnostic you may encounter.
The
universe is without purpose or reason, because it either always was
without reason, or spontaneously generated without any intelligent
design behind it. It continues in its existence without purpose, but
entirely based upon random occurence: thus evolution, a belief system
that argues for abiogenetic origin, a random compilation of materials
that just so happened to form the first cell, and then evolution
itself, a random set of genetic mutations that slowly produced the apex
of this accidental sequence of reactions SO FAR, humanity.
Thus, the very fabric of our universe, is random chance.
Even
more importantly, the composition of your brain, my brain, and every
human person's brain, is a product of this random, disorderly universe,
from random chance evolution.
So every person's thinking apparatus is the product of random, reasonless material.
Thus,
how can you presuppose that your reasonless brain can bring you to
reasonable conclusions? How can we assume that we can even come to
rational conclusions, when this universe itself, and the compostion of
the thing through which you are trying to come to rational conclusions,
your brain, is completely irrational itself?
It makes no sense to
think that your brain, which in a materialist view is just that,
nothing more than material, can somehow magically surmount the
disorderly, strictly material universe in which it lives, and start
making rational, immaterial conjecture.
If you do believe that,
you're trying to say that your materialistic brain is immaterial in
nature (higher thinking) because you're saying that the brain can
somehow analyze and deduce things that our outside of the very matrix
in which it exists, which is complete DISORDER and IRRATIONALE.
Your
brain is material, and random, purposeless material at that, existing
in a purposeless universe. It lacks the very capacity to even perceive
logic and order, because the universe from which it randomly evolved is
completely devoid of such concepts, and thus is the brain as well, in
that it has originated from said universe devoid of reason and
rationale.
A main rebuttal to this would be "well people
perceive their existence, and through perception of their environment,
create logical order from such perception."
No, this still doesn't
follow because what is perceiving, the brain, can't perceive logic and
order because, for one, there is none in the universe to perceive, and
secondly, it is the strict material object created from said disorderly
universe, thus completely lacking the ability to perceive order by the
very nature of its composition.
In short, this rebuttal is simply a misunderstanding of the argument, because it adds no new information to the premise.
And your example about the behavior of evolved humans is of no consequence, in fact, in reinforces just what I said.
In
order for humankind to perceive logic and order, to logically
deliberate science and our surroundings, or, as you said, to make
proper decisions about the best survival of the species, we have to
first have the capacity to think orderly, logically. And if our brains
our simply randomly evolved material from a disorderly universe, we
shouldn't even be able to pick an "ideal mate," or anything of that
sort. And even if we thought we did, there'd be no way to tell, because
the thing we're using to make the "good mate" decision, is itself
incapable of rational choice. In fact, the statement "rational choice"
would itself become an oxy-moron.
Quite simply, to think that
your brain can think rationally and orderly would have to point to an
ordered, purpose driven, universe, and of course the only way to have
this would be if Someone intelligently designed it, and more
specifically, designed the brain, allowing it to think on terms with
the rational, orderly universe that shares in its Ordered, Rational
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| So, Lee's about to start in like three weeks... WOO HOO!!! But EVEN BETTER, is that the closure to my summer is amazing. I am A week away from finishing my job, but the cool things: Next week I am driving to Minneapolis with a friend of mine, to help him drive up to NOrth Dakota. AFter that we are going to spend a day at the largest mall in the world, in Minneapolis, it's four levels and has a theme park with a roller coaster inside. Pretty cool. I get back and three days later me and six other guys are taking a trip to Flagler Beach florida. We're spending three days there, then coming back for me to pack up, go to church that wednesday night for the last time, and then leave for knoxville on Thursday. I'll be there until about monday, and then move into my apartment in Hicks at Lee with JESH PAUL AND CHRIS! Man, we're going to have fun this year. Yep, my life is amazing :) | | |
| So, for those of you who are interested in the life of adam, here's the info: I'm working for Mattress Gallery Direct as a delivery guy. It's a pretty sweet job. I get forty hours a week, eight an hour, always off on sundays and one other day a week (which is soon to change to two other days off a week :) ). The only problem is, I can't get off for youth camp this year, which I found out today :(. The first time I've missed one of the best weeks ever in like five years. The most important thing, in my mind, I'm doing this summer is I'm in charge of SHIFT, the name of the drama team specifically for upcoming freshman that I'm over for the summer. I have Katie Ramsey, Zack cambell, Morgan, Bekah Lewis, Nicole, and Alex Mulane under me, and as of right now we're working on a super awesome human video, which should hopefully be done by the end of June or early July. Other than that, God is really telling me a lot of things this summer, though a lot of it is really confusing. but it's all good though, I suppose, God is good :) And at the end of the summer, a bunch of us guys are going to Florida for a few days, then I'll be going to Knoxville to see my awesome Mentor Pastor Ronnie, then moving in to start my JUNIOR YEAR AT LEE UNIVERSITY!! God is good, that's my life, Comments anyone? I don't seem to get any of those anymore... | | |
| These bulletins are so stupid with their "if you don't repost you'll be cursed, have a stroke of bad luck," or one of my personal favorites "have the worst life ever." What? No, you're wrong. I'm sorry mr or mrs. i want the world to hear my bulletin, but your words do not intrinsically possess some type of magical power that instantly endows your bulletin with the capability of damning the rest of someone's existence because they don't care to tell the world about "ten things to say to mr. right." Sorry, but just... no, I mean.. Where do you people even get this? So i think a bulletin should go something like this: "If you don't repost this little green men will come out of your closet and beat you with lucky charms made of steel, then tie you up and toss you through your window, subsequently rolling you on the sheets of broken glass. Lacerated and bleeding, they will then cast you off the plank of a magical pirate ship descending from the ninth martian galaxy which will then wisk you off to the pacific coast where your bloodied body will be tossed to the ravenous great whites. After being effectively devoured, your processed excreted body will then accumulate into a giant mass at the bottom of the ocean which will directly cause a cataclysmic shift in the ocean currents, worldwide flooding, and thus a subsequent destruction of all human life. Therefore, if you don't want to be the direct cause of the termination of every man, woman and child on the planet, then repost this, OR ELSE!!! ------- Or, if you're a sensible human being, who knows everything I just said is crap, and does not in any way have some type of magical capability of causing these things to happen simply because I made them up, because the truth is that these statements were simply pulled right out of my butt, then repost this to let the world know that chain letters with certain and inescabable doom as a direct cause of not reposting them is one of the most retarded, thoughtless activities going on in the technological age, and do so only with the simple satisfaction of knowing "ahh, maybe I have in some way helped to hault the comprehensive decline of the average human I.Q. in contemporary society, becuase I have helped to expose this hopelessly brain-sucking activity." The non-coerced, sensible, coherent minded individuals', End. :) | | |
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